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[plasmashell] [Bug 397240] New: Ability to remove non-visible system widget
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b***@kde.org
2018-08-07 12:54:53 UTC
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Bug ID: 397240
Summary: Ability to remove non-visible system widget
Product: plasmashell
Version: 5.12.6
Platform: Other
OS: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: NOR
Component: general
Assignee: ***@davidedmundson.co.uk
Reporter: ***@gmail.com
CC: plasma-***@kde.org
Target Milestone: 1.0

If for any reason, a widget non-visible on the desktop [1], it looks like there
is no way to uninstall (installed/added via Widget Explorer or Add Panel
option) system widget (like Digital Clock), beside removing system packages
(with depends on pretty much half of KDE/Plasma) or editing system files.

Kubuntu 18.04.1 64bit
KDE Plasma 5.12.6

[1]: A real example of this situation
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/74165-Default-panel-disappeared
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b***@kde.org
2018-08-07 12:55:21 UTC
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***@gmail.com changed:

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See Also| |https://bugs.kde.org/show_b
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b***@kde.org
2018-08-07 14:23:04 UTC
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--- Comment #1 from ***@gmail.com ---
Just to clarify - I am talking about been able to remove visible and invisible
instances of the widget from my desktop (not deleting packages, etc.).
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b***@kde.org
2018-08-07 14:43:01 UTC
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***@gmail.com changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Summary|Ability to remove |Ability to close/remove
|non-visible system widget |non-visible system widget
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Nate Graham
2018-08-07 14:56:14 UTC
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Nate Graham <***@kde.org> changed:

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Nate Graham
2018-08-09 22:47:48 UTC
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--- Comment #2 from Nate Graham <***@kde.org> ---
*** Bug 396410 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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Nate Graham
2018-08-09 22:48:29 UTC
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Nate Graham <***@kde.org> changed:

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Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED
Keywords| |usability
Ever confirmed|0 |1

--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham <***@kde.org> ---
Another real use for this feature: if you've accidentally added a zillion
instances of a widget (e.g. notes, see duped Bug 396410), it would be nice to
have a user-visible way to remove them all.
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David Edmundson
2018-08-09 23:07:20 UTC
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David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> changed:

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Status|CONFIRMED |NEEDSINFO
Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO

--- Comment #4 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
That's not a good summary. The user did not have a zillion active instances of
the widget. He had added and removed a zillion instances.

I still really don't really understand what problem we're trying to solve here.

The only way you have a situation where you can't delete a widget the normal
way are:
1) widget on a desktop view on a disconnected monitor/activity

At which point, what's the point of blindly deleting it? It's not doing
anything.

2) in the event of some other bug.

At which point this isn't remotely a solution.
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Nate Graham
2018-08-10 14:51:40 UTC
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--- Comment #5 from Nate Graham <***@kde.org> ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #4)
Post by David Edmundson
That's not a good summary. The user did not have a zillion active instances
of the widget. He had added and removed a zillion instances.
He was only able to remove them after receiving info in a Bugzilla ticket that
was being inappropriately used for user support. To me that suggests that
there's a UI issue somewhere. It seems to be a particular issue with Notes
where:
1. It's easy to accidentally create notes
2. Users are likely to have more than one
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Christoph Feck
2018-09-05 03:35:48 UTC
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Christoph Feck <***@kde.org> changed:

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Status|NEEDSINFO |UNCONFIRMED
Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO |---
Ever confirmed|1 |0

--- Comment #6 from Christoph Feck <***@kde.org> ---
Thanks for the update; changing status for inspection.
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