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[plasmashell] [Bug 360333] New: New system tray: icons do not scale with panel height, stay very small
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Luca Beltrame via KDE Bugzilla
2016-03-09 19:45:00 UTC
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Bug ID: 360333
Summary: New system tray: icons do not scale with panel height,
stay very small
Product: plasmashell
Version: master
Platform: Other
OS: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: NOR
Component: System Tray
Assignee: plasma-***@kde.org
Reporter: ***@kde.org

With the merge of the new system tray, icons in the tray keep on being very
small (22px is my guess) with taller panels. In particular, as the panel gets
taller, the icons get moved on two rows and keep on being very, very small (see
attached screenshot).

Increasing panel height makes icons stack on top, and does not increase their
size (see screenshot)

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Increase panel height


Actual Results:
Icons are displayed on two or more rows, their height doesn't change

Expected Results:
Icons should increase in size.

Latest plasma-workspace as of today (2016-03-09).
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2016-03-09 19:46:27 UTC
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Created attachment 97801
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plasmoidviewer screenshot with large height
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Created attachment 97802
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Screenshot of system tray in the panel
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Created attachment 97822
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hidden icons expanded
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2016-03-11 18:05:44 UTC
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*** Bug 360420 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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2016-03-13 08:59:27 UTC
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--- Comment #5 from Yuking <***@sohu.com> ---
Have the same problem.
lfs with today's git codes.
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2016-03-13 09:06:57 UTC
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2016-03-15 10:44:57 UTC
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--- Comment #6 from Marco Martin <***@gmail.com> ---
this bug is pretty much mutually exclusive with
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353834
I fear icons are either going to be too big for some people or too small for
some other people (and i don't want to add a configure icon size ui)
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--- Comment #7 from Luca Beltrame <***@kde.org> ---
Can a middle ground be at least tested? Currently, *any* resolution > 1366 x
768 in my tests (which is the one I have in my X220) makes icons unbearably
tiny and even painful to look at.

At least, where is this set in the code? If all else fails, I'll patch it for
myself...
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2016-03-19 20:45:16 UTC
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Post by Marco Martin via KDE Bugzilla
this bug is pretty much mutually exclusive with
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353834
I fear icons are either going to be too big for some people or too small for
some other people (and i don't want to add a configure icon size ui)
This maybe an issue VDG could be involved with.

I'm not sure what you mean by "too big for some", but systray icons did indeed
look bigger than the clock font next to them (since both got the same height,
but fonts have some padding b/c of unused accent space above and below). Having
that aligned would be a win.

But now it's not following the height of the panel at all. Fixed height systray
icons mean they will look wrong on every resized taskbar panel - proportionally
with how much it is resized.

Bringing back the proportionate design with make it much more usable for many
of us, making it aligned with the text-based plasmoids on the panel would just
make it look awesome.
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2016-03-23 22:28:30 UTC
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--- Comment #9 from Luca Beltrame <***@kde.org> ---
With the latest state I have of plasma-workspace (cad0705) at least now the
icons are in a straight line, although smaller than the previous version. Makes
things at least easier than before.
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2016-03-23 22:29:47 UTC
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Sorry, wrong revision: i meant 8b677a9.
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2016-07-08 15:39:28 UTC
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2016-08-27 18:28:39 UTC
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--- Comment #11 from Dainius Masiliūnas <***@gmail.com> ---
I find this to be a problem too. I always make the panel higher, so that icons
are easy to distinguish at a glance on big screens. With this change, it feels
like we're back to the bad old xembed days of icons not scaling at all...

How about a panel option of how many rows the icons should be put into? This is
both for system tray icons and taskbar buttons.
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2016-09-29 08:37:49 UTC
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--- Comment #12 from Jan Wiele <***@wiele.org> ---
This also makes the icons hard to see and click on high dpi screens. :(
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2016-10-04 20:03:57 UTC
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--- Comment #13 from Guillaume Martres <***@ubuntu.com> ---
Is there any way at all to work around this, even including recompiling stuff
to hardcode a bigger size somewhere? On a 4K 15' screen I can barely see the
systray icons.
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2016-10-04 20:12:41 UTC
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--- Comment #14 from Guillaume Martres <***@ubuntu.com> ---
Alright, I got it, let me know if there's a less terrible way of doing this:
- Edit
/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray/contents/config/main.xml
- Under "<entry name="iconSize" type="Int">" you'll see:
<default>1</default>
- Replace 1 by 2 or something bigger, for me 2 was exactly right.
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2016-10-04 21:33:48 UTC
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2016-10-05 16:15:46 UTC
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--- Comment #16 from Keith Hammond <***@gmail.com> ---
How did this bug slip into an LTS release? It should be fixed immediately. If I
booted up to a fresh install with this bug (rather than having updated to it
and not wanting to move all of my data) I would straight away install a
different DE or distro.
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2016-10-05 16:47:26 UTC
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I suspect this bug is worse on hidpi screen because plasmashell does not
respect hidpi settings (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356446) so 16x16
is really 16x16 and is not scaled up as the comment in
/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray/contents/config/main.xml
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this bug is pretty much mutually exclusive with
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353834
I fear icons are either going to be too big for some people or too small for
some other people (and i don't want to add a configure icon size ui)
I guess that any variant will rub some people wrong. We simply can't account
for all tastes and any change will make one group or another angry. The
question is: which group do we want to piss off, or do we accept the problems
that come with such a configuration UI.
Also if Guillame is correct above, that HiDPI screens make the icons stick to
16x16, that's the main issue since that would make them close to unusable.

One solution would be to create a third size of 32x32 icons and simply skip to
that size when the panel is resized to something that could accomade them. But
that means recreating the icon theme (so its pixel aligned) and that will take
a while (IIRC only a few of the panel icons exists in 32x32)
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--- Comment #19 from ***@nm.ru ---
Reality is that screen sizes are increasing, not decreasing, and downscaled
icon looks better than upscaled. If plasma wants to be future-proof then you
kind of have to have icons in bigger size available.
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I guess that any variant will rub some people wrong. We simply can't account
for all tastes and any change will make one group or another angry. The
question is: which group do we want to piss off, or do we accept the
problems that come with such a configuration UI.
Also if Guillame is correct above, that HiDPI screens make the icons stick
to 16x16, that's the main issue since that would make them close to
unusable.
Or, you know, make use of the thing KDE is renowned for: configuration options.
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this bug is pretty much mutually exclusive with
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353834
I fear icons are either going to be too big for some people or too small for
some other people (and i don't want to add a configure icon size ui)
I guess that any variant will rub some people wrong. We simply can't account
for all tastes and any change will make one group or another angry. The
question is: which group do we want to piss off, or do we accept the
problems that come with such a configuration UI.
I disagree with this, looking at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353834
the issue is specifically with two rows of systray icons where the icons almost
overlap, the bug report title even says "(ok if single row)". No one is
clamoring for one row of very small icons.
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Could the problem be the method used to scale the icon size on hidpi monitors?
Looking in plasma-framework/src/declarativeimports/core/units.cpp:
// Scale the icon sizes up using the devicePixelRatio
// This function returns the next stepping icon size
// and multiplies the global settings with the dpi ratio.
const qreal ratio = devicePixelRatio();

if (ratio < 1.5) {
return size;
} else if (ratio < 2.0) {
return size * 1.5;
} else if (ratio < 2.5) {
return size * 2.0;
} else if (ratio < 3.0) {
return size * 2.5;
} else if (ratio < 3.5) {
return size * 3.0;
} else {
return size * ratio;
}
My ratio is 1.47674, that means I have no scaling at all when there is a 1.5
factor existing. Is it reasonable? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the
factor the closest to the ratio rather than what is done here?
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Could the problem be the method used to scale the icon size on hidpi
monitors?
// Scale the icon sizes up using the devicePixelRatio
// This function returns the next stepping icon size
// and multiplies the global settings with the dpi ratio.
const qreal ratio = devicePixelRatio();
if (ratio < 1.5) {
return size;
} else if (ratio < 2.0) {
return size * 1.5;
} else if (ratio < 2.5) {
return size * 2.0;
} else if (ratio < 3.0) {
return size * 2.5;
} else if (ratio < 3.5) {
return size * 3.0;
} else {
return size * ratio;
}
My ratio is 1.47674, that means I have no scaling at all when there is a 1.5
factor existing. Is it reasonable? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the
factor the closest to the ratio rather than what is done here?
Good point, but even if you fix that, I think that devicePixelRatio() will
still return 1 because of:
qunsetenv("QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO");
QCoreApplication::setAttribute(Qt::AA_DisableHighDpiScaling)
in
https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=blob&h=ec117f3bf9c12894bc7d3f80858256fab0026da4&hb=e88b52a18ff9c7ed43a9bed4e4ba270a8ee18355&f=shell%2Fmain.cpp
(cf https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356446)
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Good point, but even if you fix that, I think that devicePixelRatio() will
qunsetenv("QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO");
QCoreApplication::setAttribute(Qt::AA_DisableHighDpiScaling)
in
https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.
git&a=blob&h=ec117f3bf9c12894bc7d3f80858256fab0026da4&hb=e88b52a18ff9c7ed43a9
bed4e4ba270a8ee18355&f=shell%2Fmain.cpp (cf
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356446)
I don't think this problem affects icon sizes. Also I used the code from
devicePixelRatio() to find the value 1.47674.
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Shouldn't the HiDPI scaling issues be in another bug report, though? This one
is about icons scaling with panel size, regardless whether it's HiDPI or not.
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I have a ratio of 1.3 on my machine, and the icons don't scale at all in 5.8.0.
Used to scale properly in 5.7.last.
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Left — stand-alone widgets, right — systray

I would expect the systray be the same size as the widgets. Current systray is
just barely visible (in fact unusable) on a HiDPI screen.
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Still an issue in Plasma 5.9.
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Well, seeing as though the Plasma/KDE devs don't want to help out their HiDPI
users and fix this issue (There has been one major release and multiple point
releases since the creation of this bug) they have one less user and one less
person that would recommend KDE to a friend.

I know that spiel isn't really relevant to fixing the bug, but maybe at least
the devs will see that it is a major issue and get it fixed.
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Well, seeing as though the Plasma/KDE devs don't want to help out their
HiDPI users and fix this issue (There has been one major release and
multiple point releases since the creation of this bug) they have one less
user and one less person that would recommend KDE to a friend.
I know that spiel isn't really relevant to fixing the bug, but maybe at
least the devs will see that it is a major issue and get it fixed.
Not only HiDPI users! I'm on a 1920x1080 15" screen, which nowadays is very
common. Still, icon tray sizes are way too small, and it has been so for a
whole year!

How is this possible? Why is noone fixing this extremely annoying bug? Everyone
using Plasma on a moderately modern high-end laptop will be affected by this
bug and likely believe that not much care is put into Plasma, if bugs like this
go unnoticed.
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+1

Sorry to "spam" people following this issue, but as end user I am also
disappointed by this issue who persist release after release... Why?
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Marco Parillo
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(In reply to Guillaume Martres from comment #14)
Post by Guillaume Martres via KDE Bugzilla
- Edit
/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray/contents/
config/main.xml
<default>1</default>
- Replace 1 by 2 or something bigger, for me 2 was exactly right.
Your approach does work for me, but the file seems to be over-written with
every Plasma release. Instead, I found a solution (similarly described twice)
that I was able to follow:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1686987#p1686987

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=131736&start=30#p365350
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I fell under the same spell with 5.8, and didn't find a solution with
askubuntu.

I have to say that it is most frustrating to read that the ui-people feel that
it is their task and not the users' prerogative to change the icon sizes.
(https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=131736#p359606)

Also, I can't agree with comment#6:
I have modified the file as indicated in comment#14, to '2', and now it looks
pretty much better here. Most of all, however, when I drag the vertical panel
to a larger width, automatically the icons get sorted in two - or more -
columns.

Also, I can't see how and where and when - during installation - the size of
tray icons could or should be modified, since the '1' in
.../contents/config/main.xml seems to be part of the files under '/usr/.
Therefore, I assume that this '1' is a fixed value, possibly irrespective of
HiDPI. And not 'variable' as indicated in the comment in that file.

And then this behaviour would contradict the essence of Plasma 5: better adjust
to the varieties of screen sizes and formats. Rather, it should scale to a
certain percentage of physical screen width.
I can't install KDE it into my Huawei 8" 1920 pixel tablet; though I wonder how
tiny it would look there.

My suggestion is a configuration of icon size (user override of the parameter
mentioned) through the (existing) context menu of the systray.
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The small icons in the panel were an oddity for me to on my Lenovo X-1 Yoga. I
thought I would at least mention an oddity when applying the work-around from
above (setting IconSize to 2) -- once that is done, if I resize my panel, the
task bar icons do change in size, while before they stayed fixed. Is the
default behaviour of them staying put a bug?
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related patch: https://phabricator.kde.org/D7849
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Patch which fixes this issue: https://phabricator.kde.org/D10487
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*** Bug 370525 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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